Urban Groove Dance Network Aftermath
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Founded by Joel Tan, an accreditated dance teacher with a registered certificate from the United Kingdom Alliance(UKA) in the area of Hip Hop and Street Styles, Urban Groove Dance Network(UGDN) is a locally based network of academies focused on providing professional classes for Urban and Street Dance Styles since 2004. With classes and workshops offering Hip Hop, New Styles, Breaking, Locking, Poppin, House, and Krump lessons, Urban Groove Dance Network has established itself as the leading street and urban dance styles school in Malaysia since 2004 as an official dance studio. Joel Tan is the pioneer of the original street and urban dance styles in Malaysia and is the first to receive the street dance teaching certificate.“

The first time i knew about this dance group was a few years back. I was pretty impressed when i know about its history and such and how they managed to get to the top in the HipHop scene in Malaysia.
With a founder who was the first to get a professional dance certificate all the way from United Kingdom Alliance of Professional Teachers of Dancing and Kindred Arts.
With 10 branches and more than 20 instructors conducting hundreds of sessions per month teaching hundreds of students.
With records of various competitions and even breaking into the clubbing scene getting all the attentions and such.
Being judges themselves in later stages judging different dance competitions.

It seems that they are not stopping right there and then pushing their limits creating a much bigger buzz in the Malaysian Hip Hop Scene. I wasn’t really interested in learning the dance steps and such but i was interested in following their news then.
As i understand thus far, back to the old days, Joel Tan started this whole dance school with 2 of his buddies, Nick a.k.a Fai and Fellest and it was during their college days in TARC they knew each other. With a passion in dancing, they started their first dance studio in Bandar Sunway and it became big where they expanded their dance studios and classes to Cheras and Klang.
The whole business went big and within a short span of time, they opened up more branches and it broke out of the state and went to as far as Penang and Johor. Everything looks good and promising to them with more students and of course more money coming in.
and everything right seems wrong where everything good became bad from there…

According to a private source of mine, there were mamak sessions having discussions and talks among the top instructors of UGDN planning a leaving from the dance group where they dislike Joel Tan and they wanted to boycott and leave him and UGDN once and for all.
and the whole split drama happened at the end of 2007 if i’m not mistaken. Yes 2 years ago.
and compiling the information from a few different source these are the reasons :
From the instructors point of view :
- Joel Tan was too self-centered and all the attention goes to him alone and not as a whole group of dancers.
- Money conflicts where the instructors think that they are underpaid and such
- Opinions and thoughts that clashes
From Joel Tan’s point of view :
- He said that the instructors betrayed him and left him
- He voiced out a few things in the group and wanted to change certain things but the others dislike what he want to do which includes conducting classes at a cheaper rate for Christians as he is a Christian and he wanted Christians to shine for God through Hip Hop dance and of course the other instructors do not want to reduce their rates on teaching.
There’s no exact prove on who says the truth and such but whether who is right and who is wrong, the main reason being was pretty serious i guessed that the relationship that they had for years, the friendship and such that made them the top of the world in Malaysia turned out into betrayal and backstabbing leaving each other at different sides with no more relations.
I won’t say anything on that as i wasn’t there in between the whole drama when it happen.
I have no rights to judge any of them as well.
I just felt sad for them, a happening group that’s promising becoming into broken pieces
Now, 4 of the ex-top dance Instructors of UGDN under Joel Tan back in the years have each established their own dance studios in different areas. Fellest Yan, Nick Fai, Raymond and Bobby.
Fellest Yan’s Royal Phantom Dance Studio
31-2 & 31-M, The Strand Damansara,
Jalan PJU 5/20, Kota Damansara,
Selangor, Malaysia, 47810
Tel : +6012-8333755

Nick Fai’s Rhythmusic Dance Studio
32A (1st Floor), Jalan Midah 1,
Taman Midah
56100 Cheras
Nick Fai 016-2336002
Geraldine 012-9074312
Bobby Tan’s Street Nation Dance Studio
Puchong branch:
No 50-3, Jalan Puteri 2/4,
Bandar Puteri,
47100 Puchong, Selangor.
Tel: 012 681 2757 | 012 553 1130
Email: info@streetnation.com.my
Sunway branch:
3-2, Jalan PJS 11/28B,
Bandar Sunway,
46150 Petaling Jaya, Selangor.
Tel: 016 553 5306
Email: eric_5507@hotmail.com
Raymond’s Raydio Dance Academy
Klang, Malaysia
Joanne, 012-9304618
Raymond, 016-6997889
Email : raydioacademy@gmail.com
Media Coverage of UGDN in the past.





Sunway : 45-3 Jln PJS 11/28B Bandar Sunway 46150 Petaling Jaya
Subang : No 7 2nd Floor USJ10/16 47620 Subang Jaya
Kepong : No 31-1 Jln Prima 7 Pusat Niaga Metro Prima Kepong 52100 Kuala Lumpur
Joel : 012- 3896568
Alyssa: 016-5684466

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about 2 years ago
fulamak.. cool nyer… u didnt go learn ka? then can each me ma.. =P
about 2 years ago
i think everyone has their own perspective in life and all have different views on business…. when it comes to money and pay… very sensitive issue…
from my point of view i think a student should always respect their master… they ought to be grateful when they were given the chance… no teacher no them…no studio no idea how to start a business…
most of joel's partners went off to have their own businesses but all have traces of Urban Groove…
and as for higher pay i suppose all of them who left and started their own business now know and feel how much business risk and investment and time was involved to provide them with stable income…
something that they will never admit…
boycotting the hand that fed you… haiz … an ungrateful decision …..
good luck to all parties involved in this melodrama…
looks like Penang's ex-urban groove branch and some in KL are not doing so well.. merely putting up a studio but not making money… learn the lesson the hard way ya…
and to urban groove… a lesson to learn… being the best involves a whole team… when they leave … it crushes you … left you with lacking in talent …but looks like you got a pretty strong team now… hidden and not much publicized but one of the strongest we have seen….
good teachers will produce good students… may the best man win
about 2 years ago
> JolynGoh : why not u go learn and teach me hehehehee =D
> Anonymous : points well said. You very right on what you've mentioned in your comment, it's not that easy starting up a business and such and somehow some of them are feeling the pain already. Well just, all the best to all of them. Hmm
about 2 years ago
I met them before..They are so cool
about 2 years ago
> Nicole : yeaps they were cool so dats why i tot its such a sad case of them going different paths..
about 2 years ago
Interesting article!
about 2 years ago
> http://www.dancesportmalaysia.blogspot.com : thanks!
about 2 years ago
some update…
Street Nations in Sunway… macam not many paying students…
constantly closed
Ultimaxx in Penang…. close shop already… all three branches…
now open kopitiam… but last time we checked … also close shop already
about 2 years ago
haha.. ah well.
i’m sure when you post up something controversial, this was to be expected. you are afterall not new to the blogging world no?
ah well. must say, hats off to your guts though.
about 2 years ago
STOP TALKING SHIT HERE,BUDDY.IF U REALLY WANNA DO SOMETHING TO HELP THIS CULTURE. STOP DOING TAT ,I HATE POLITIC. ITS JUZ DANCE, YOU KNOW WAT IS DANCE…U NEVER KNOW TAT . COZ U ARE NOT A DANCER . GO TO FIND OUT URSELF… PEACE
about 2 years ago
UG ALWAYS THE BEST ….
BEST IN CHEATING ppl ,
spoil the market,
create their own world.
I LOVE U , UG UG UG …YeAH..
about 2 years ago
i think u guys should do a interview between Urban Groove and his ex – member. Its sure interesting… Yes la…
about 2 years ago
u sure ultimaxx in penang closeddD? how could this be?
about 2 years ago
yo bro i am raymond from Raydio Dance Academy!!thanks for promoting our studio~~you dope peace^^
about 2 years ago
BULLSHIT.that wasnt even what happened.
about 2 years ago
All agreed with ‘ugdn FANS’, stop spoiling the market. And stop creating your own world to cheat ppl’s money. UG can eat? haha!
about 2 years ago
Okay peeps, stop arguing here. What posted here previously was what i HEARD from multiple resources and i compiled it all together.
I did not say that ITS THE TRUTH and i did not judge any of them.
Of course i won’t understand the story behind on what actually happen back then but then again, i find out that there’re many ex-UGDN supporters in the past wanting to know abit of what happen all these while TO UGDN which is why i gathered information from sources from BOTH sides and compiled it here.
If you do not know yet, the main objective of this post is to promote ALL THE DANCE SCHOOLS set up by those dance instructors who used to be in/still in UGDN as i know some of the schools are suffering at the moment.
To Mr kamen rider, Lol i see you don’t know much about blogs la. Let me be frank with you, my this blog is really a lousy blog of mine and i don’t really earn much from it. EVEN IF THIS POST GETS POPULAR, THAT WON’T MAKE ME AN INSTANT BLOGGER WHO IS RICH.
To earn alot from blogging takes ALOT much more than this post alone.
So yea, everyone, thanks for commenting. Cheers.
about 2 years ago
Raymond Tan.U know who is joel tan . He is god father for this malaysia hip hop culture. He heal the world…
about 2 years ago
ello mr.joshua, thks for spreadin out such a news but..
u really don understand d whole story back there n just write out all d point of view of yourself..
i just curious that how old r u n r u those 38magazine’s reporter haha..sori no offence here just come for peace..if u wanna knw more truths u shouldnt just listen 1 person said but understand more details frm d other witnesses but not to judge everyone by listened to d Big Boss only.
try to make frens to everybody den understand their feelin also
this advise not just aimem at tis topic but also in your life.
PLS DONT JUDGE EVERY SINGLE PERSON SO SIMPLY..peace..let’s make friends..
about 2 years ago
why brought up such u so called inside story on ur blog that the fact u din even look all around thr table?? trying to make money on ur blog with just hit up some news that u just heard from one side just to make ppl tat know the truth feel upset,u wan to make money?? congrats,u are now.
about 2 years ago
BULLSHIT………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
about 2 years ago
wow, one link on fb and your post is instantly spammed by supporters and haters alike.
i read this post of yours ages ago but im only commenting now after reading all that UG bashing.
i dont see the logic behind what these ‘hardcore’ fans or supporters of the old crew are doing.
dancing is our passion, so why drag politics into this, when many are not even 100% clear of the situation.
there’ll always be people who refuse to believe the other side of the story. i’ve heard from instructors of both sides, and quite frankly, i dont want to judge. all i want to do is dance. i’ve been under the guidance of instructors from both sides, and altho i decided to remain in ug, and am quite happy here, i still keep in touch with the ex-ug crew.
we’re not the ones who were directly involved in the whole drama, so there’s no need to get so involved in it.
everyone here shares the same passion for dancing, so just chill out yo, and put this old story behind us.
about 2 years ago
so yeah…wat a happening topic here…
1st, thanks for promoting all the studio. (for joshua)
2nd, Street Nation is doing well, many of ex UG students:)close becoz we r busy for show…our operation hr is from 2.30 pm to 10pm
3rd, talking about business huh? wat kind of of business u r doin? how well do u know abt dancing business??
btw…we all ex ug instructor are happier than b4…thanks for the concern
about 2 years ago
haha yes i’m not new to the blogworld so that is why i didn’t reply the comments using foul language or whatsoever. I know why some of the comments are so harsh over here, its just like there’re Msians supporting BN and some supporting DAP and they will say stuffs like these.
No worries and i’m actually glad for the comments, it shows that there’s actually people reading what i post.
Replying AD : Its really good hearing that the instructors are doing fine and the studios are doing good as well.
Kudos to you guys who have passion in dancing and dare to pursue your dreams thus far, that is what i am lacking of.
Cheers!
about 2 years ago
1…so of what u have been writing here are heard from rumors,so are u sincerely standing on no one side while this all thing down??
2…are u sincerely telling me that u are trying to promote these studio that is from bobby and the other while in the other hand u were writing rumors of bobby street nation din care about students and close studio constantly??
3…”hear” it has a lot of meanings,and what kind of “resources” u have heard,does it comes from the actual “roots”?rumors does not make of any even one of it’s conclusion,so don’t simply let it out while it heard from others..
RIDER KICK~!!
about 2 years ago
1. I wasn’t there when all these so called drama happen. From the start i get information on this till i fully compiled everything, i’m still standing on neutral grounds. Seriously i am not close to any of the UGDN ppl.
2. I didn’t write about any closing of any studios of bobby street nation dude. Swt and yes if i am not promoting why i want to go and find out the details on the different studios. Zzzzz.
3. Yeps i can say dat its from the actual roots as there’re not only the few main instructors involved in the drama, there’re quite a number that time where some on side a some on side b.
=)
about 2 years ago
well they split in 2008 not 2007. i was there during the whole drama. only got one thing to say…. no joel.. no them. as for pay… i think they got a lot more (may be 2 times) than a fresh graduate. they get even more when doing advertorials and performances. “bagai kacang melupakan kulitnya” is the perfect idiom for them i’ll say. UGDN has now gotten much stronger without them.
about 2 years ago
Thanks for the info. =)
about 2 years ago
Well, i’m Urban Groove’s Ex-student,i used to learn from Joel at one of the studio outside,that was long long time ago.After he opened the Urban Groove Sunway branch then only i transferred to his studio..but too bad i had to further my studies in overseas so i quit in year 2006.Now I’m BACK!!Kekeke,just started to join back Urban Groove last month. I was shocked and sad when i heard this, how could this happened?? I mean,Joel treated them so well like good friends more than an employee.
I do agree with windmill,they are “bagai kacang lupakan kulit”..i still remembered very clearly,last time when Joel taught in the studio i used to learn from, he always brought 1 of them to observed and follow all the classes that he taught,Joel was training them to become his instructors. if not mistaken,the 4 senior instructors was Joel’s students,they were brought up and trained up by Joel from zero to become the street dance instructors.
1 thing i need to correct you here, Joel started his dancing school by his own,not with the other 2 instructors..because that time when i was learning in Sunway they were still under training, all the classes syllabus and teaching materials were set and choreographed by Joel himself. One thing for sure is, as i know Joel is the ONLY Boss and founder of Urban Groove all this while.
Not to side who’s right and wrong,just wish them all the best!
Oh yea, i attended quite a lot of classes in urban groove recently, they have lots of new street dance styles which i never tried before,quite interesting and challenging though. Their new instructors are all good and strong in their specialized skill,what impressed me the most was when i saw 1 of the female instructor did krumping,i didn’t know girls can krump so well,her energy was WOW..can even beat a guy.I like Jerry’s new style too,haha..Joel’s popping was super dope!He has become more and more younger,he doesn’t look like 30, he looks like 20!!He’s still the dance teacher i respect the most because he’s a real good and patient teacher to me.
about 2 years ago
=)
about 2 years ago
Hey, just to add in.. the GIRL who did krumping with loads of energy and soul is Miss Silvya Lo. She taught me my hip hop and she is realllll awesome! Do come over for her krumping lessons though, its dope!
about 2 years ago
Lol thanks fer the info!
about 2 years ago
Lolz, pity Joel who has to face so many traitors. What to do? This is Malaysia, even dance has politics in it. Dance is for fun and passion, not humiliating and disgraceful events like this. If this continues, I don’t see any future in Malaysia’s hip hop scene.
Fk those traitors, srsly, just dance, why so serious?
about 2 years ago
well its already quite long since everything already so yea. hmm
about 2 years ago
I guess everybody should smoke the peace pipe and pass it around like the Red Indians used to do!
about 2 years ago
LOL. It’s quite hard to do so d rite?
about 2 years ago
Well.
To be quite truthful, you could’ve avoided all the negative comments if you’d simply just done what you claim to be doing – blog about the hip-hop dance movement in Malaysia, its history, the studios that exist today, and left it at that.
Heck, here in Malaysia even the courts can’t differentiate truth from lies, and you’re trying? Remember this: two sides of a story do not a whole make.
Kudos on providing information on the available dance studios – hard to find anywhere else on the Web – but next time, maybe you ought to just leave the past where it is – in the past.
about 2 years ago
Well to be truthful to u as well, i don’t mind all the negative comments =D and in fact i was interested in knowing what would ppl react and that is what i was finding out =)
I’m not differentiating the truth from lies, i’m just stating what i know and heard and let people judge it themselves.
Last but not least, thanks for your advice for me to leave the past where it is. Appreciate it. =D